I don't agree. Yes, the gov't cannot coerce or pay or intimidate or use any other method to sway or demand silence on a particular subject. But you're looking at it from a narrow definition of 'free speech'. You're either free to speak on any subject, or you're not. Twitter or any other open forum should be considered the same level as a newspaper or, a soapbox or any medium designed to provide information that our gov't cannot limit. You want to experience 'free speech? Go to GAB.com for a sample. A lot of what's there is trash, vulgar language, anti-Semitic, anti-black etc. But YOU and I have the God given right to say it. If you don't like what you read, ignore it, delete it, block it and so on, just as I do. You might even try to persuade them to see the other side, as is your right to freely discuss. But to limit what Elon is now doing,... is wrong.
Everything you are saying exists in the realm of subjective judgment. 'Anti-Semitic' is used by liberal Jews to shut down anyone who criticizes their views. Vulger language - what is that when most all the words are now on TV. In fact, the case can be made that TV is total trash i.e. it's anti-white male, anti-Christian, anti-conservative, etc. But should it be banned - of course not.
I agree, however, that we can censor this trash for ourselves, but it should not be censored beforehand. Free speech includes what you don't like as well as what you do. I object to Musk banning Kanye West, or Ye as he now prefers to call himself, who didn't post a tiny fraction of the indignities, slanders, smears and slurs the left floats. By doing so, he's just continuing the fascism of the previous Twitter administration. I hope he sees that and reinstates Ye's account.
You are correct. We've become such a crybaby society that our 1st Amendment has become much like other countries in that it's limited by what the gov't allows. Our gov't is compressing it's meaning, relying on PC, being 'offending' by someone's remarks, and other manipulations of free speech to redefine the people's freedom to speak openly. "Sticks and Stones" no longer applies. To allow a certain segment of our society to say one word (N) and not allow others, was the slippery slope we slid down on.
Biden campaign and the DNC are not the government. The Trump White House is the government. Why was the Trump White House asking Twitter to censor citizens.
10.Both parties had access to these tools. For instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored. However:
Lie! Trump NEVER asked Twitter to 'censor citizens'. He had absolutely ZERO leverage with the clowns running that show. They even banned him. Your both sides are doing it justification is totally bogus. Quite sowing lies!
LOL I am not a left of anything. You yelling at me and assuming things about me without proof does not advance your argument. I am surprised you did not call me a racist. Nice projection, but I would not vote for a communist Democrat for anything.
You all don't understand what a quote is? I add the no. 10 quote from the Friday Twitter dump. Running for office does not make you the government. The fact of the matter is the Trump White house was the government, the DNC and Biden campaign are not, and according to Twitter, "requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored" (That is a quote. That means Mr. Musk released a statement by Twitter saying Trump's White House made requests of Twitter.) given that. what were the request? If they were requests to censor people, then that is a problem and very likely a violation of the 1st Amendment. I as a American have a big problem with anyone in government, be they Democrat or Republican censoring anybody because of their viewpoint.
Not that it is anyone's business who I vote for, but I voted for Trump twice and plan to vote for him again. I have no TDS. But, if someone in his Whitehouse did request Twitter to censor someone, as an American I have a right to know who and why and demand it be stopped. Finally, just because someone in Trump's Whitehouse made a request does not mean President Trump made the request or even knew about it. It does mean he needs to find out who did what and why and correct the problem once he is notified it was done.
As I understand it, is it essentially a “publisher” or is it a “public soapbox”? If a “publisher”, as Twitter asserted before Congress (= no oversight), or if a public soapbox the Free Speech pversight applies. If soapbox standards of decency can, pre-published, apply, so, too, laws relative to threats, incitement, etc apply. Obviously, the pat several years were standards and laws were ignored as since they were not only allowed carte blanche cencorship they were also working in concert with CIA, FBI, Congress, etc which raises a lot of culpability and collusion questions ranging from RICO, 1stA violations, even treason related criminal activity. One example, censoring the Hunter laptop story caused many people to not vote for Trump which would be a domestic treasonous act of insurrection and overthrow of the government .
With foreign concerns involved in the ownership and/or management of the business foreign treason also comes into play.
Your right in many ways Mr.Rucker. The governments job is to protect our rights as citizens first and foremost and using a 3rd party to initiate propaganda and censorship’s is illegal in many ways you have pointed out.
It’s not the name “Twitter” that’s now in new hands that’s accountable under new leadership, it’s the rogue employees of a company that took a paycheck to violate our rights while using an American Soil taxpayer funded entity to push illegal actions upon their very neighbors and friends.
Those actions are criminal, and each of them who participated should be charged with federal crimes.
I don't agree. Yes, the gov't cannot coerce or pay or intimidate or use any other method to sway or demand silence on a particular subject. But you're looking at it from a narrow definition of 'free speech'. You're either free to speak on any subject, or you're not. Twitter or any other open forum should be considered the same level as a newspaper or, a soapbox or any medium designed to provide information that our gov't cannot limit. You want to experience 'free speech? Go to GAB.com for a sample. A lot of what's there is trash, vulgar language, anti-Semitic, anti-black etc. But YOU and I have the God given right to say it. If you don't like what you read, ignore it, delete it, block it and so on, just as I do. You might even try to persuade them to see the other side, as is your right to freely discuss. But to limit what Elon is now doing,... is wrong.
Everything you are saying exists in the realm of subjective judgment. 'Anti-Semitic' is used by liberal Jews to shut down anyone who criticizes their views. Vulger language - what is that when most all the words are now on TV. In fact, the case can be made that TV is total trash i.e. it's anti-white male, anti-Christian, anti-conservative, etc. But should it be banned - of course not.
I agree, however, that we can censor this trash for ourselves, but it should not be censored beforehand. Free speech includes what you don't like as well as what you do. I object to Musk banning Kanye West, or Ye as he now prefers to call himself, who didn't post a tiny fraction of the indignities, slanders, smears and slurs the left floats. By doing so, he's just continuing the fascism of the previous Twitter administration. I hope he sees that and reinstates Ye's account.
You are correct. We've become such a crybaby society that our 1st Amendment has become much like other countries in that it's limited by what the gov't allows. Our gov't is compressing it's meaning, relying on PC, being 'offending' by someone's remarks, and other manipulations of free speech to redefine the people's freedom to speak openly. "Sticks and Stones" no longer applies. To allow a certain segment of our society to say one word (N) and not allow others, was the slippery slope we slid down on.
Biden campaign and the DNC are not the government. The Trump White House is the government. Why was the Trump White House asking Twitter to censor citizens.
10.Both parties had access to these tools. For instance, in 2020, requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored. However:
Lie! Trump NEVER asked Twitter to 'censor citizens'. He had absolutely ZERO leverage with the clowns running that show. They even banned him. Your both sides are doing it justification is totally bogus. Quite sowing lies!
LOL I am not a left of anything. You yelling at me and assuming things about me without proof does not advance your argument. I am surprised you did not call me a racist. Nice projection, but I would not vote for a communist Democrat for anything.
You all don't understand what a quote is? I add the no. 10 quote from the Friday Twitter dump. Running for office does not make you the government. The fact of the matter is the Trump White house was the government, the DNC and Biden campaign are not, and according to Twitter, "requests from both the Trump White House and the Biden campaign were received and honored" (That is a quote. That means Mr. Musk released a statement by Twitter saying Trump's White House made requests of Twitter.) given that. what were the request? If they were requests to censor people, then that is a problem and very likely a violation of the 1st Amendment. I as a American have a big problem with anyone in government, be they Democrat or Republican censoring anybody because of their viewpoint.
Not that it is anyone's business who I vote for, but I voted for Trump twice and plan to vote for him again. I have no TDS. But, if someone in his Whitehouse did request Twitter to censor someone, as an American I have a right to know who and why and demand it be stopped. Finally, just because someone in Trump's Whitehouse made a request does not mean President Trump made the request or even knew about it. It does mean he needs to find out who did what and why and correct the problem once he is notified it was done.
Btw, when they REGISTERED to run for office, guess what? They became part of the government, officially. 😉
If you weren't a lying leftist partisan hack, you could see and admit that.
You just can't get your tongue out of Obiden's croch, can you? Stage 4 TDS is a problem too, apparently. 😂
As I understand it, is it essentially a “publisher” or is it a “public soapbox”? If a “publisher”, as Twitter asserted before Congress (= no oversight), or if a public soapbox the Free Speech pversight applies. If soapbox standards of decency can, pre-published, apply, so, too, laws relative to threats, incitement, etc apply. Obviously, the pat several years were standards and laws were ignored as since they were not only allowed carte blanche cencorship they were also working in concert with CIA, FBI, Congress, etc which raises a lot of culpability and collusion questions ranging from RICO, 1stA violations, even treason related criminal activity. One example, censoring the Hunter laptop story caused many people to not vote for Trump which would be a domestic treasonous act of insurrection and overthrow of the government .
With foreign concerns involved in the ownership and/or management of the business foreign treason also comes into play.
Your right in many ways Mr.Rucker. The governments job is to protect our rights as citizens first and foremost and using a 3rd party to initiate propaganda and censorship’s is illegal in many ways you have pointed out.
It’s not the name “Twitter” that’s now in new hands that’s accountable under new leadership, it’s the rogue employees of a company that took a paycheck to violate our rights while using an American Soil taxpayer funded entity to push illegal actions upon their very neighbors and friends.
Those actions are criminal, and each of them who participated should be charged with federal crimes.