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The FBI, CIA, the DOJ, and the DOD are all organized opponents of the legitimate government. None are under the control of politicians, they are all autonomous, they only maintain the appearance of being a part of the visual government.

John and Bobby were going to dismantle the CIA, that's what got them killed.. They knew that the CIA was out of control and were going to do something about it.

This is why I keep saying that our troubles will never be solved politically, the real power cares not about all that constitutional Republic stuff. They're in control, and they mean for it to stay that way.

Like it or not, we either go to war, or succumb to the deep state and fascism.

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What does it all mean? I think basically that they were asleep at the switch. Both the CIA & FBI knew about Oswald. They knew he went to Mexico City to go to the Cuban and or Russian Embassies only weeks before the assassination. They were grossly negligent. While many are prone to shout THE CIA CARRIED OUT THE JFK ASSASSINATION!! I'm inclined to believe that they and the FBI were just not connecting the dots and doing a good job at protecting the country from a catastrophe. Think 9/11.

So was the culprit CIA or CYA? By the way look into the Soviets vast disinformation campaign that the late Romanian general and defector Ion Mihai Pacepa whom I interviewed who discussed their vast international disinformation campaign to induce the world to believe that the US or anyone but communists did the deed of murdering JFK. They had to insinuate that anyone but a Marxist Communist-Lee Harvey Oswald-was responsible so they got behind blaming US institutions and Texas oil men. From virtually the very beginning the KGB was trying to peddle the idea that Oswald was NOT guilty. I know this because I interviewed arguably Oswald's best friend Ernst Titovets, still alive in 2022. The Soviets informed him almost immediately that Oswald hadn't killed JFK. Oswald had lived in Russia for a few years and the PR disaster for the left was enormous. Today like on the day of the assassination the right was mentioned as possible culprits. I think we need to be a little more sophisticated in looking at the JFK assassination and the stakes-the US Government failed to recognize the threat and JFK died.

One person no one mentioned was arguably the first JFK Assassination conspiracist-Howard Leslie Brennan who saw Oswald in the 6th floor window a few minutes before the assassination AND as Oswald made the last shot that hit JFK's head. He immediately sought to give his description to law enforcement. Some 45 minutes later Oswald was seen shooting Officer JD Tippit AFTER the police issued an advisory probably with Brennan's general description.

Jack Ruby? He surely looks like a mafia hit man. However Ruby was very volatile, violent and craved attention. He was the guy who had to be in the middle of everything. He saw, on Sunday morning, Nov. 24th, 1963 that Lee Harvey Oswald was the center of attention and despite having his prized dachsund in his car awaiting his return he, in my opinion, acted on his explosively violent impulses in a moment of opportunity. He was in no great rush to be in the police garage where Oswald was about to be escorted through before TV cameras and took his time that Sunday morning and minutes before was chatting in the Western Union office nearby while sending cash to one of his strippers. Regarding the CIA psychiatrist who "treated" Jack Ruby I think they wanted to silence him and could have given him LSD. Why? Excellent question but remember that Nixon recognized Ruby as soon as the Oswald murder took place as an operative who had worked in domestic anti communist operations. Does this then mean that the CIA had him silence Oswald? Not necessarily. Ruby was not a reliable man neither for the mob nor the CIA either but a talker who'd blow any secrecy in a heartbeat-not the man for the job to kill Oswald. Ruby was a loose cannon for the CIA and would discuss all sorts of things going back years and the CIA knew it but was a small fry. Also be open to the idea that Oswald was a DIY wannabe presidential assassin eager to ingratiate himself with the Cuban government (where he wanted to transfer to) who saw both JFK and Gen. Edwin Walker (whom Oswald attempted to kill on April 10th, 1963) as enemies. Finally the shot was not a difficult one. Marines in the 1950's qualified on a rifle range with distances up to 500 yards. JFK was just 88 yards from the 6th floor window when he suffered the fatal head wound. Why they refuse to release all the records, at this point, could be because there are still CIA sources in their 80's or 90's or their descendants who are still alive and living abroad and potentially in danger of reprisals. There's also a possibility that full disclosure could irreparably compromise the prestige of the CIA & FBI. Is that cowardice or perhaps prudence? What would it do if America realized that the CIA and or FBI was asleep at the switch in 1963. What good can come of it at this point? It's like revealing embarrassing family scandals-ugly when they happened in 1963 and still ugly in 2022 with methods and people still alive now who could be exposed.

You write off ex CIA Director Mike Pompeo as not only a RINO but a coward? He was a standout in 2020 and 2021 as being publicly loyal to Trump and committed to helping "make a transition to a 2nd Trump Administration". I still think Pompeo is a good man who stood tall as others were running to the exits. It's easy to tear people down from a keyboard. Mike Pompeo deserves to be characterized as a patriot and a man with integrity. So now conservatives join the Soviets in peddling the notion that America and our government killed JFK. In the case of the Soviets they were desperately hoping that Oswald -a fist raising Marxist murderer-did not do it while many conservatives swallow the lie hook, line and sinker and never suspect that our enemies did it. Boy did they snooker us!

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