As American society continues to lose trust in government and our various institutions, it's telling that Mike Pompeo wants to be President while perpetuating the degradation of these institutions.
The FBI, CIA, the DOJ, and the DOD are all organized opponents of the legitimate government. None are under the control of politicians, they are all autonomous, they only maintain the appearance of being a part of the visual government.
John and Bobby were going to dismantle the CIA, that's what got them killed.. They knew that the CIA was out of control and were going to do something about it.
This is why I keep saying that our troubles will never be solved politically, the real power cares not about all that constitutional Republic stuff. They're in control, and they mean for it to stay that way.
Like it or not, we either go to war, or succumb to the deep state and fascism.
> John and Bobby were going to dismantle the CIA, that's what got them killed
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And the reason for dismantling the CIA was:
(a) they murdered his friend James Forrestal (first chairman of MJ-12 and creator of the black budget secret accounting system - originally intended for antigravity research). Forrestal opposed the government's use of criminal methods to maintain UFO secrecy and believed that only technical research should be concealed (like secret aircraft); the deep state disagreed and was furious when he briefed members of congress. Review Eisenhower's farewell address; JFK secret societies speech.
The secret government created by the National Security Act is unconstitutional (meaning: secret agencies with secret budgets and the legal immunity for criminal acts.) This is what has to be reversed.
"I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in forty-seven if I had known it would become the American Gestapo."
Forgive me for wanting hard details on how that war is supposed to be waged, how we would prevent corruption of the insurrection by the very forces it seeks to replace, and how we would prevent foreign interests from cluttering the battle lines in order to permanently weaken the United States.
Wars have a nasty tendency to extinguish civilizations.
Liberty is obviously under threat, but its a multi-polar threat of infinitely higher complexity than that facing our forefathers in the 1770s. Dismantling a corrupted state is no easy task, but which is really more likely to succeed -- a populist uprising with a commitment to constitutional principles and the rule of law, or disparate groups of competing militia, certainly ready to fight among themselves to establish dominance amidst chaos?
What does it all mean? I think basically that they were asleep at the switch. Both the CIA & FBI knew about Oswald. They knew he went to Mexico City to go to the Cuban and or Russian Embassies only weeks before the assassination. They were grossly negligent. While many are prone to shout THE CIA CARRIED OUT THE JFK ASSASSINATION!! I'm inclined to believe that they and the FBI were just not connecting the dots and doing a good job at protecting the country from a catastrophe. Think 9/11.
So was the culprit CIA or CYA? By the way look into the Soviets vast disinformation campaign that the late Romanian general and defector Ion Mihai Pacepa whom I interviewed who discussed their vast international disinformation campaign to induce the world to believe that the US or anyone but communists did the deed of murdering JFK. They had to insinuate that anyone but a Marxist Communist-Lee Harvey Oswald-was responsible so they got behind blaming US institutions and Texas oil men. From virtually the very beginning the KGB was trying to peddle the idea that Oswald was NOT guilty. I know this because I interviewed arguably Oswald's best friend Ernst Titovets, still alive in 2022. The Soviets informed him almost immediately that Oswald hadn't killed JFK. Oswald had lived in Russia for a few years and the PR disaster for the left was enormous. Today like on the day of the assassination the right was mentioned as possible culprits. I think we need to be a little more sophisticated in looking at the JFK assassination and the stakes-the US Government failed to recognize the threat and JFK died.
One person no one mentioned was arguably the first JFK Assassination conspiracist-Howard Leslie Brennan who saw Oswald in the 6th floor window a few minutes before the assassination AND as Oswald made the last shot that hit JFK's head. He immediately sought to give his description to law enforcement. Some 45 minutes later Oswald was seen shooting Officer JD Tippit AFTER the police issued an advisory probably with Brennan's general description.
Jack Ruby? He surely looks like a mafia hit man. However Ruby was very volatile, violent and craved attention. He was the guy who had to be in the middle of everything. He saw, on Sunday morning, Nov. 24th, 1963 that Lee Harvey Oswald was the center of attention and despite having his prized dachsund in his car awaiting his return he, in my opinion, acted on his explosively violent impulses in a moment of opportunity. He was in no great rush to be in the police garage where Oswald was about to be escorted through before TV cameras and took his time that Sunday morning and minutes before was chatting in the Western Union office nearby while sending cash to one of his strippers. Regarding the CIA psychiatrist who "treated" Jack Ruby I think they wanted to silence him and could have given him LSD. Why? Excellent question but remember that Nixon recognized Ruby as soon as the Oswald murder took place as an operative who had worked in domestic anti communist operations. Does this then mean that the CIA had him silence Oswald? Not necessarily. Ruby was not a reliable man neither for the mob nor the CIA either but a talker who'd blow any secrecy in a heartbeat-not the man for the job to kill Oswald. Ruby was a loose cannon for the CIA and would discuss all sorts of things going back years and the CIA knew it but was a small fry. Also be open to the idea that Oswald was a DIY wannabe presidential assassin eager to ingratiate himself with the Cuban government (where he wanted to transfer to) who saw both JFK and Gen. Edwin Walker (whom Oswald attempted to kill on April 10th, 1963) as enemies. Finally the shot was not a difficult one. Marines in the 1950's qualified on a rifle range with distances up to 500 yards. JFK was just 88 yards from the 6th floor window when he suffered the fatal head wound. Why they refuse to release all the records, at this point, could be because there are still CIA sources in their 80's or 90's or their descendants who are still alive and living abroad and potentially in danger of reprisals. There's also a possibility that full disclosure could irreparably compromise the prestige of the CIA & FBI. Is that cowardice or perhaps prudence? What would it do if America realized that the CIA and or FBI was asleep at the switch in 1963. What good can come of it at this point? It's like revealing embarrassing family scandals-ugly when they happened in 1963 and still ugly in 2022 with methods and people still alive now who could be exposed.
You write off ex CIA Director Mike Pompeo as not only a RINO but a coward? He was a standout in 2020 and 2021 as being publicly loyal to Trump and committed to helping "make a transition to a 2nd Trump Administration". I still think Pompeo is a good man who stood tall as others were running to the exits. It's easy to tear people down from a keyboard. Mike Pompeo deserves to be characterized as a patriot and a man with integrity. So now conservatives join the Soviets in peddling the notion that America and our government killed JFK. In the case of the Soviets they were desperately hoping that Oswald -a fist raising Marxist murderer-did not do it while many conservatives swallow the lie hook, line and sinker and never suspect that our enemies did it. Boy did they snooker us!
I am thinking about "911", again asleep at the wheel. Who or what put them asleep? Corruption and self preservation. Can you truly separate the NWO, the CIA, FBI, from the mob?
How can we entertain the idea that the Mob has no control in our internal affairs, and that our villain's are always an external force?
The mafia is no longer the power it was. For decaes we've blamed the CIA, LBJ, Texas oil men, Cuban anti Castro operatives but naively think that the left doesn't carry out evil acts and conspiracies. How wrong. We've seen America become the playground for our external enemies for decades and now generations.
Much of your comment is credible, particularly the part about CIA incompetence. That is likely what the 'Deep State' is most worried about exposing. Considering the massive size of the 'Intelligence Community', their record of success over the past six or so decades has been dismally poor. Also, IMO, that business about a 'grassy knoll hitman' and the widespread conspiracy theory is pure fabrication. It's true that many, including foreigners (Soviets), wanted to divert attention away from the fact that the assassin was likely a leftist Communist (Oswald). In fact, it was Jackie Kennedy who began the smear that the assassin was likely a 'right winger'. Also, I'm not willing to go so far as JD Rucker, with all due respect, in describing Mike Pompeo as a 'Cowardly Deep State RINO'.
With their "black (Unending) budget, with their work outside the rule of law, what could go wrong.
Pompeo could have considered telling the people the truth. He chose not to do that. He thoughtfully and deliberately chose to continue to deceive citizens. Sorry, but that makes him resonate with the current occupant. It is no damn wonder they will do anything to remove Trump from getting a position to uncover their treason.
It also strongly resonates with a close friend of my husband who was one of just the second batch of Seals to be trained in the 1960s. Out on point with his team in Cambodia, adjacent to Viet Nam at night, the team came upon a runway in the middle of the jungle. There was a Boeing 707 being loaded for takeoff. Hubbie's good friend asked the flight engineer where they were going. The flight engineer told him their destination was Arkansas, nonstop with midflight refueling. That plane was loaded only with drugs. When hubby's close friend and his team returned to their base, he went straight to his commander and told him about it thinking he would do something about the flight of illegal drugs. Instead, the commander told hubby's friend, paraphrasing, "don't you say anything to anybody about what you saw. IF say even one word of it to anyone, you do you will spend the rest of you life in the brig." Right then and there, Bill said he changed in the way he saw his Country. He from that moment on he could not wait to get out of the service. He never said anything about it the whole of his life until his last year when he got cancer. Then he told a few close friends like my hubby. Bill, the former Navy Seal, lost complete faith in his Country. Now we hear more evidence about the CIA involvement in the killing of a president. Bottom line: 99% of most citizens do not know their own Nation.
That is curious that Pompeo chose the code of 'Omerta' regarding the deep state, specifically, the CIA. The CIA is quite evidently, a rogue agency, beyond civilian control, and Pompeo's loyalty was also evidently to the CIA over the American people. Allow me to be persuaded as to Pompeo's actual integrity.
It's probably not coincidental that GHW Bush, who once headed the CIA, that his son, GW Bush, gave that very status, i.e. beyond civilian control, that they were so envious of, to the rest of the administrative agencies via his 'NEW TONE' i.e. when he allowed all of Clintons's selections to remain just where they were. Is there any doubt as to the reason why the Bush mob chose to support HRC in 2016 over their own party's nominee, TRUMP?
In a word: it was a very high probability that it was NOT a coincidence.
As a kind of sidebar, when those buffoons, purportedly but not really conservatives, came out stating the Bubba was like a son and brother, even Kim Jun Un's lil sister mentioned "stink." LOL
Pompeo did not have any power to "compel" Trump not to honor his promise. Trump was the President. Pompeo was a subordinate. Pompeo may be bad just like William Barr and Ronna Romney and Christopher Wray and Rex Tillerson and Reince Priebus and an Mad Dog Mattis and John Bolton and Jeff Sessions and Nikki Haley and Omerosa and Jared Kushner and Ivanka - all Trump appointees. But Trump had the power to declassify and everything, which was his promise, and he failed to honor his promise.
I have but one problem with the response of Carlson's source, who was asked by Carlson "if the CIA was involved," with the reply being, "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved." That problem is that the source stated "believe." "Believe" is not a "statement of fact" but an "opinion," a "statement of faith," held by a "true believer." But let those of us who live in the world of reality accept one truth. If, IF, if an individual could respond with the answer "I know," instead of "I believe," would that person do so knowing that by doing so they would actually be saying "Yes, I know it to be true, I can prove it is true, I have the proof under my concrete basement floor and you may now remove my physical presence from the planet because they are that dark force over the "elected arm of the government" that controls all things, and there I said it." I know no man would be so fool hardy unless they were as mad as that contract psychiatrist believed that Jack Ruby was. The desire to survive is the strongest force on this planet, stronger than procreate, and shapes all decisions, be you an intelligence agency or a custodian for that agency. Consequently, I cannot believe that the questions revolving around the death of J.F.K. will ever be provably, factually resolved. So, get used to it and believe what you like. However, if you also believe that this nation could possibly survive without a CIA, I will simply mockingly tell you to "Grow-Up."
First, it's not the cia per se. It is a very large org made up of thousands of operators. Our government criticizes other nations that try to influence our elections while our government involves itself in elections of other nations. It is unlawful for our government to operate illegally. Our government agencies must follow the law and rules for oversight. When they do not follow those rules, there must be sanctions to force them to comply. We simply cannot have a government within our government. Elections MUST be run legally and openly and properly. We cannot continue to have elections that are suspect of fraud and external influence including that of Big Tech and the MSM.
Pompeo did not have any power to "compel" Trump not to honor his promise. Trump was the President. Pompeo was a subordinate. Pompeo may be bad just like William Barr and Ronna Romney and Christopher Wray and Rex Tillerson and Reince Priebus and an Mad Dog Mattis and John Bolton and Jeff Sessions and Nikki Haley and Omerosa and Jared Kushner and Ivanka - all Trump appointees. But Trump had the power to declassify and everything, which was his promise, and he failed to honor his promise.
We often argue but he was not a political dude, he was a competitive businessman from NY.
Nevertheless, it may have seemed like a good idea at the time. I supported him in letter and donations. But I have to say, whomever was charged with vetting his advisors fell terribly short. He had an opportunity to make things right but heeded the advice of some very questionable people who turned right around and stabbed him in the back. Bottom line after all is said and done: sadly, he probably missed his only opportunity to provide citizens information on their own gov. It matters a lot because we also know the left takes EVERY opportunity to get their way. Considering some of the freaks Brandon has placed in office sickens me. Now we learn he has ordered illegal aliens to be brought in from southern Mejico with American passes. The game is so damn obvious but too few in DC even discuss it.
I am a conservative since first voting for Reagan in 1980. I like the Constitution and wonder why Trump never used the power he had to declassify, which is exclusive to the President. Are you an Alinsky acolyte?
I am a conservative and have been since day one when i became a naturalized citizen. I voted for RR. "Are you an Alinsky acolyte?". What a damned insult!
Why would you ask that?
I made reference to Saul Alinsky because the concept of "repetition of a lie" is one of his rules for radicals. Unless and until conservatives use the very same rules that leftists use against us, they will continue to dominate. Some conservatives understand this principle and advise for it - use their own rules against them.
I voted for DJT and donated regularly to his campaign both times and during his presidency. That the establishment and media and the politically elite want DJT out of play is in and of itself indication they fear his presidency disportionately for SOME reason. I want him back in office but this time with a better mechanism of vetting advisors - get Ivanka & Jared out of his inner political circle asap - so many of their selectees stabbed him in the back.
Also, while true that Pompeo did many good things and was strong in his position, his deliberate act to continue to hide the JFK issue cannot be forgiven - after all, and IF you are really a conservative, We the People must be made aware of what OUR government is up to.
1979 I was a punk-senior in a H/S Sociology class; tasked to debate this issue. My opponent was my cousin who was the class' handsome football star.... I had to prove the assasination was a cia conspiracy...my opponent had to prove it wasn't. He & the class laughed at me while he just sat there & used the Warren Commission...
The characterization of Mike Pompeo as being a "Cowardly Deep State RINO" is at stark variance with so many public positions that Pompeo has voiced and merits complete retraction*. Concerning the application of this description in connection to the release or non release of JFK assassination related documents, I have already responded. In brief CIA methods and persons who may now still be alive in their 80s or 90's or their family members (including and especially abroad) could be in danger. But I'd like to respond to the use of such a prominent public "headline level" personal attack against Mike Pompeo-an outstanding public servant, Christian and a man who graduated first in his class at West Point and who has shown an exemplary record of being a solid Christian patriot at nearly every turn of his public life. Indeed thanks in no small part to his robust criticism of Communist China, upon completion of his time as US Secretary of State, China banned Mike Pompeo and family members from entering China and : "...have also been restricted from doing business with China either individually or through their companies and institutions.". This also applied to several Trump Administration officials. One of the most striking "Non RINO" comments that Mike Pompeo uttered was his defiant reply made on Nov. 10th 2020 about if there would be a smooth transition to a Biden Administration in the following weeks after the 2020 election: "There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration, all right. We're ready. The world is watching what's taking place here. We're gonna count all the votes. When the process is complete, they'll be electors selected."
I now include, for your reflection, a few facts (based on news articles that are included on the biased against conservatives Mike Pompeo wikipedia page:
Pompeo advocated for moving the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and the withdrawal of the United States from the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran.and negotiated the Abraham Accords which established diplomatic normalcy between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.[5]
While other Trump Cabinet members resigned or took a low profile after the attack on the Capitol, in which Trump's role was debated, Pompeo remained a vocal defender of Trump, sending a Twitter message that promoted him as a potential Nobel Peace Prize nominee.[150]
He accused the World Health Organization of being under control of the People's Republic of China
Pompeo said the U.S. government [was] trying to determine if the COVID-19 virus emanated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.[125][126] On April 23, 2020, Pompeo claimed that China had denied U.S. scientists permission to enter the country, in an effort to ascertain the origin of the current pandemic.
Visiting Taipei in 2022, Pompeo said that the U.S. should recognize Republic of China (Taiwan) as an independent country.
On October 10, 2018, Pompeo said Israel "is everything we want the entire Middle East to look like going forward" and that the Israel–United States relations are "stronger than ever".[78]
In March 2019, when questioned regarding Israel's conflicts with Iran and following a visit to the Western Wall with Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Pompeo spoke to "the work that our administration's done to make sure that this democracy in the Middle East, that this Jewish state, remains ... I am confident that the Lord is at work here."[79]
In October 2019, the State Department web site promoted a speech by Pompeo "On Being a Christian Leader", which he delivered to the American Association of Christian Counselors in his official government role. Pompeo touts Christianity in his speech, describes how he applies his faith to his government work. The promotion of the speech by the State Department was met with criticism from those who believed it was incompatible with separation of church and state.[86][87][88] He also created the Commission on Unalienable Rights, and created a faith-based employee affinity group that includes contractors.[89]
In January 2020, the Trump administration approved a drone strike that assassinated Iranian General Qasem Soleimani. Pompeo was reportedly among the most hawkish advisors within the administration during the meeting in which Trump decided to assassinate Soleimani.
Speaking about climate change in 2013, Pompeo said: "There are scientists who think lots of different things about climate change. There's some who think we're warming, there's some who think we're cooling, there's some who think that the last 16 years have shown a pretty stable climate environment."[212] He has said, "Federal policy should be about the American family, not worshipping a radical environmental agenda."
In 2009 Pompeo signed the No Climate Tax pledge of Americans for Prosperity.
Pompeo has stated that life begins at conception and believes abortions should be allowed only when necessary to save the life of the mother, with no exceptions for rape.[222]
In 2011, he voted for the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, which would have banned federal health coverage that includes abortion.
He opposes same-sex marriage and sponsored bills to let states prevent same-sex couples from marrying.[224][225]
Pompeo was instrumental in the development of the anti-abortion Geneva Consensus Declaration.[226]
At the suggestion of Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, Pompeo planned to hire chaplains at the CIA.[57]
In 2014, Pompeo told a church group that Christians needed to "know that Jesus Christ as our savior is truly the only solution for our world".[240] In 2015 in a talk at a church, Pompeo said that "politics is a never-ending struggle ... until the Rapture."
Mike Pompeo-you really think this is the public record of a cowardly, deep state RINO?
I agree with almost all of this, and have far more confidence in Pompeo's essential character than DJT. And while Tucker Carlson is talented, charismatic and right a good deal of the time, he is also manipulative and not particularly trustworthy.
That isn't to say that he's incorrect that the CIA had a hand in JFK's assassination. But his anonymous source has no particular credibility, and the "bombshell" -- like so many Tucker has dropped -- dovetails perfectly with a Russian agenda to weaken the United States by exacerbating distrust and cultural conflict.
The Soviets were masters at long-game subversion of American society, and much of the absurd "wokism" that so thoroughly infects academia germinated from seeds first planted as long ago as the 1950s. The Soviet intelligence apparatus implemented a highly successful, multi-faceted campaign over decades to erode social stability in the United States. Are we supposed to believe that this effort miraculously disappeared with the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991? After successfully corrupting the American left, isn't it far more likely that in contemporary Russia it has modernized, matured, and now does its best to inflame and corrupt the American right, using all means at its disposal?
One might suspect leaders in other countries know more about the murder of JFK than most American citizens. With the information revealed by Carlson, many things make sense that were suspected without sufficient evidence. For me, the "magic bullet" was a huge clue that Oswald did not act alone. Common sense tells us that no bullet in that day could change course of travel. Also, very possibly related was the deaths of Monroe and deep investigative reporter Dorothy Kilgallen. Those deaths were especially frightening in the manner they were performed. Toxic poison place where? OMG. What monsters. All in all, now it becomes clearer why Trump's candidacy was fought against by the likes of the FBI/DOJ/CIA. Our whole gov is a sham. In a very real sense, JFK's speech resonated strongly with the last advice of President Dwight Eisenhower. They knew. Now, we know. Our gov truly is a nonrepresentative sham.
Researcher Dale Myers proved that rather than being a magic bullet, the higher position of JFK and the lower position of Gov. Connolly in the jump seat meant that the bullet fired from the Carcano (incidentally a very accurate weapon although its often maligned as the humanitarian probably due to its flat trajectory that tends to penetrate flesh and quickly exit doing lesser damage than other rifles that tend to give a yawing trajectory) could have easily hit both men. I blame an avowed marxist communist Lee Harvey Oswald who loved Fidel Castro.
“Case Closed” by Posner makes the same argument. I have read arguments online between people claiming to know that weapon on both sides of the “I could make that shot” debate. I have toured the building and plaza and listened to various theories. Personally, I have little knowledge of guns, so no opinion on that issue. However, I am completely convinced that we have never been told the entire truth, that we have very limited access to what really goes on with our intelligence apparatus, and that many items Trump ordered declassified were “slow walked” until he was no longer in office and never released to the public.
Sadly, our gov deliberately with-holds critical information from citizens. Those who argue one bullet and one dude are definitely entitled to their opinions and reasoned arguments. So am i. I do not believe that bullet traversed a near right angle to enter Gov Connerly. My opinion is that there is more than enough circumstantial and other evidence to indicate that the cia was involved for reasons i stated elsewhere here. Consider the behavior of the DOJ and FBI the last few years. They are now off their original mission. Both agencies have lost respect from citizens and of nations across the globe. They need to be rebirthed.
The FBI, CIA, the DOJ, and the DOD are all organized opponents of the legitimate government. None are under the control of politicians, they are all autonomous, they only maintain the appearance of being a part of the visual government.
John and Bobby were going to dismantle the CIA, that's what got them killed.. They knew that the CIA was out of control and were going to do something about it.
This is why I keep saying that our troubles will never be solved politically, the real power cares not about all that constitutional Republic stuff. They're in control, and they mean for it to stay that way.
Like it or not, we either go to war, or succumb to the deep state and fascism.
> John and Bobby were going to dismantle the CIA, that's what got them killed
_________
And the reason for dismantling the CIA was:
(a) they murdered his friend James Forrestal (first chairman of MJ-12 and creator of the black budget secret accounting system - originally intended for antigravity research). Forrestal opposed the government's use of criminal methods to maintain UFO secrecy and believed that only technical research should be concealed (like secret aircraft); the deep state disagreed and was furious when he briefed members of congress. Review Eisenhower's farewell address; JFK secret societies speech.
https://famousphotoprints.com/products/president-john-f-kennedy-visits-the-grave-of-lieutenant-james-forrestal-at-arlington-national-cemetery-may-30-1963
(correlate National Security Act of 1947 with Roswell crash)
https://exopolitics.org/did-president-trump-just-acknowledge-extraterrestrials-crashed-at-roswell/
(b) they conspired with the Joint Chiefs of Staff to murder innocent U.S. citizens in a false flag operation
“the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government” (before 9/11)
--James Bamford
http://www.mackwhite.com/northwoods.html
https://historyofyesterday.com/operation-northwoods-the-us-governments-plan-to-kill-its-citizens/
https://publicintelligence.net/operation-northwoods/
https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/operation-northwoods/
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● Trump blocks release of JFK records after last minute CIA push
https://web.archive.org/web/20200615163024/https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-26/trump-delays-release-some-jfk-assassination-records-after-last-minute-cia-push
● Whistleblower who saw the classified documents:
“It’s a whole different country than we thought it was. It’s all fake.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAiRmhXvJHs
● The shocking report came just hours after Biden administration again postponed the release
https://thehornnews.com/tucker-carlson-stuns-cia-involved-in-jfk-assassination/
The secret government created by the National Security Act is unconstitutional (meaning: secret agencies with secret budgets and the legal immunity for criminal acts.) This is what has to be reversed.
"I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in forty-seven if I had known it would become the American Gestapo."
-- Harry S. Truman
Forgive me for wanting hard details on how that war is supposed to be waged, how we would prevent corruption of the insurrection by the very forces it seeks to replace, and how we would prevent foreign interests from cluttering the battle lines in order to permanently weaken the United States.
Wars have a nasty tendency to extinguish civilizations.
Liberty is obviously under threat, but its a multi-polar threat of infinitely higher complexity than that facing our forefathers in the 1770s. Dismantling a corrupted state is no easy task, but which is really more likely to succeed -- a populist uprising with a commitment to constitutional principles and the rule of law, or disparate groups of competing militia, certainly ready to fight among themselves to establish dominance amidst chaos?
Money changers control the narrative. They have for centuries. GreatKaan.com
What does it all mean? I think basically that they were asleep at the switch. Both the CIA & FBI knew about Oswald. They knew he went to Mexico City to go to the Cuban and or Russian Embassies only weeks before the assassination. They were grossly negligent. While many are prone to shout THE CIA CARRIED OUT THE JFK ASSASSINATION!! I'm inclined to believe that they and the FBI were just not connecting the dots and doing a good job at protecting the country from a catastrophe. Think 9/11.
So was the culprit CIA or CYA? By the way look into the Soviets vast disinformation campaign that the late Romanian general and defector Ion Mihai Pacepa whom I interviewed who discussed their vast international disinformation campaign to induce the world to believe that the US or anyone but communists did the deed of murdering JFK. They had to insinuate that anyone but a Marxist Communist-Lee Harvey Oswald-was responsible so they got behind blaming US institutions and Texas oil men. From virtually the very beginning the KGB was trying to peddle the idea that Oswald was NOT guilty. I know this because I interviewed arguably Oswald's best friend Ernst Titovets, still alive in 2022. The Soviets informed him almost immediately that Oswald hadn't killed JFK. Oswald had lived in Russia for a few years and the PR disaster for the left was enormous. Today like on the day of the assassination the right was mentioned as possible culprits. I think we need to be a little more sophisticated in looking at the JFK assassination and the stakes-the US Government failed to recognize the threat and JFK died.
One person no one mentioned was arguably the first JFK Assassination conspiracist-Howard Leslie Brennan who saw Oswald in the 6th floor window a few minutes before the assassination AND as Oswald made the last shot that hit JFK's head. He immediately sought to give his description to law enforcement. Some 45 minutes later Oswald was seen shooting Officer JD Tippit AFTER the police issued an advisory probably with Brennan's general description.
Jack Ruby? He surely looks like a mafia hit man. However Ruby was very volatile, violent and craved attention. He was the guy who had to be in the middle of everything. He saw, on Sunday morning, Nov. 24th, 1963 that Lee Harvey Oswald was the center of attention and despite having his prized dachsund in his car awaiting his return he, in my opinion, acted on his explosively violent impulses in a moment of opportunity. He was in no great rush to be in the police garage where Oswald was about to be escorted through before TV cameras and took his time that Sunday morning and minutes before was chatting in the Western Union office nearby while sending cash to one of his strippers. Regarding the CIA psychiatrist who "treated" Jack Ruby I think they wanted to silence him and could have given him LSD. Why? Excellent question but remember that Nixon recognized Ruby as soon as the Oswald murder took place as an operative who had worked in domestic anti communist operations. Does this then mean that the CIA had him silence Oswald? Not necessarily. Ruby was not a reliable man neither for the mob nor the CIA either but a talker who'd blow any secrecy in a heartbeat-not the man for the job to kill Oswald. Ruby was a loose cannon for the CIA and would discuss all sorts of things going back years and the CIA knew it but was a small fry. Also be open to the idea that Oswald was a DIY wannabe presidential assassin eager to ingratiate himself with the Cuban government (where he wanted to transfer to) who saw both JFK and Gen. Edwin Walker (whom Oswald attempted to kill on April 10th, 1963) as enemies. Finally the shot was not a difficult one. Marines in the 1950's qualified on a rifle range with distances up to 500 yards. JFK was just 88 yards from the 6th floor window when he suffered the fatal head wound. Why they refuse to release all the records, at this point, could be because there are still CIA sources in their 80's or 90's or their descendants who are still alive and living abroad and potentially in danger of reprisals. There's also a possibility that full disclosure could irreparably compromise the prestige of the CIA & FBI. Is that cowardice or perhaps prudence? What would it do if America realized that the CIA and or FBI was asleep at the switch in 1963. What good can come of it at this point? It's like revealing embarrassing family scandals-ugly when they happened in 1963 and still ugly in 2022 with methods and people still alive now who could be exposed.
You write off ex CIA Director Mike Pompeo as not only a RINO but a coward? He was a standout in 2020 and 2021 as being publicly loyal to Trump and committed to helping "make a transition to a 2nd Trump Administration". I still think Pompeo is a good man who stood tall as others were running to the exits. It's easy to tear people down from a keyboard. Mike Pompeo deserves to be characterized as a patriot and a man with integrity. So now conservatives join the Soviets in peddling the notion that America and our government killed JFK. In the case of the Soviets they were desperately hoping that Oswald -a fist raising Marxist murderer-did not do it while many conservatives swallow the lie hook, line and sinker and never suspect that our enemies did it. Boy did they snooker us!
I am thinking about "911", again asleep at the wheel. Who or what put them asleep? Corruption and self preservation. Can you truly separate the NWO, the CIA, FBI, from the mob?
How can we entertain the idea that the Mob has no control in our internal affairs, and that our villain's are always an external force?
The mafia is no longer the power it was. For decaes we've blamed the CIA, LBJ, Texas oil men, Cuban anti Castro operatives but naively think that the left doesn't carry out evil acts and conspiracies. How wrong. We've seen America become the playground for our external enemies for decades and now generations.
Much of your comment is credible, particularly the part about CIA incompetence. That is likely what the 'Deep State' is most worried about exposing. Considering the massive size of the 'Intelligence Community', their record of success over the past six or so decades has been dismally poor. Also, IMO, that business about a 'grassy knoll hitman' and the widespread conspiracy theory is pure fabrication. It's true that many, including foreigners (Soviets), wanted to divert attention away from the fact that the assassin was likely a leftist Communist (Oswald). In fact, it was Jackie Kennedy who began the smear that the assassin was likely a 'right winger'. Also, I'm not willing to go so far as JD Rucker, with all due respect, in describing Mike Pompeo as a 'Cowardly Deep State RINO'.
With their "black (Unending) budget, with their work outside the rule of law, what could go wrong.
Pompeo could have considered telling the people the truth. He chose not to do that. He thoughtfully and deliberately chose to continue to deceive citizens. Sorry, but that makes him resonate with the current occupant. It is no damn wonder they will do anything to remove Trump from getting a position to uncover their treason.
It also strongly resonates with a close friend of my husband who was one of just the second batch of Seals to be trained in the 1960s. Out on point with his team in Cambodia, adjacent to Viet Nam at night, the team came upon a runway in the middle of the jungle. There was a Boeing 707 being loaded for takeoff. Hubbie's good friend asked the flight engineer where they were going. The flight engineer told him their destination was Arkansas, nonstop with midflight refueling. That plane was loaded only with drugs. When hubby's close friend and his team returned to their base, he went straight to his commander and told him about it thinking he would do something about the flight of illegal drugs. Instead, the commander told hubby's friend, paraphrasing, "don't you say anything to anybody about what you saw. IF say even one word of it to anyone, you do you will spend the rest of you life in the brig." Right then and there, Bill said he changed in the way he saw his Country. He from that moment on he could not wait to get out of the service. He never said anything about it the whole of his life until his last year when he got cancer. Then he told a few close friends like my hubby. Bill, the former Navy Seal, lost complete faith in his Country. Now we hear more evidence about the CIA involvement in the killing of a president. Bottom line: 99% of most citizens do not know their own Nation.
That is curious that Pompeo chose the code of 'Omerta' regarding the deep state, specifically, the CIA. The CIA is quite evidently, a rogue agency, beyond civilian control, and Pompeo's loyalty was also evidently to the CIA over the American people. Allow me to be persuaded as to Pompeo's actual integrity.
It's probably not coincidental that GHW Bush, who once headed the CIA, that his son, GW Bush, gave that very status, i.e. beyond civilian control, that they were so envious of, to the rest of the administrative agencies via his 'NEW TONE' i.e. when he allowed all of Clintons's selections to remain just where they were. Is there any doubt as to the reason why the Bush mob chose to support HRC in 2016 over their own party's nominee, TRUMP?
Excellent points.
In a word: it was a very high probability that it was NOT a coincidence.
As a kind of sidebar, when those buffoons, purportedly but not really conservatives, came out stating the Bubba was like a son and brother, even Kim Jun Un's lil sister mentioned "stink." LOL
Pompeo did not have any power to "compel" Trump not to honor his promise. Trump was the President. Pompeo was a subordinate. Pompeo may be bad just like William Barr and Ronna Romney and Christopher Wray and Rex Tillerson and Reince Priebus and an Mad Dog Mattis and John Bolton and Jeff Sessions and Nikki Haley and Omerosa and Jared Kushner and Ivanka - all Trump appointees. But Trump had the power to declassify and everything, which was his promise, and he failed to honor his promise.
"Six ways from Sunday"
Personally, I believe that GHW Bush shot JFK in the back from the 6th floor. That would explain the delay in declassifying.
Sorry, but that only works for Dem presidents like Clinton, Obama, Biden.
I have but one problem with the response of Carlson's source, who was asked by Carlson "if the CIA was involved," with the reply being, "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved." That problem is that the source stated "believe." "Believe" is not a "statement of fact" but an "opinion," a "statement of faith," held by a "true believer." But let those of us who live in the world of reality accept one truth. If, IF, if an individual could respond with the answer "I know," instead of "I believe," would that person do so knowing that by doing so they would actually be saying "Yes, I know it to be true, I can prove it is true, I have the proof under my concrete basement floor and you may now remove my physical presence from the planet because they are that dark force over the "elected arm of the government" that controls all things, and there I said it." I know no man would be so fool hardy unless they were as mad as that contract psychiatrist believed that Jack Ruby was. The desire to survive is the strongest force on this planet, stronger than procreate, and shapes all decisions, be you an intelligence agency or a custodian for that agency. Consequently, I cannot believe that the questions revolving around the death of J.F.K. will ever be provably, factually resolved. So, get used to it and believe what you like. However, if you also believe that this nation could possibly survive without a CIA, I will simply mockingly tell you to "Grow-Up."
First, it's not the cia per se. It is a very large org made up of thousands of operators. Our government criticizes other nations that try to influence our elections while our government involves itself in elections of other nations. It is unlawful for our government to operate illegally. Our government agencies must follow the law and rules for oversight. When they do not follow those rules, there must be sanctions to force them to comply. We simply cannot have a government within our government. Elections MUST be run legally and openly and properly. We cannot continue to have elections that are suspect of fraud and external influence including that of Big Tech and the MSM.
Well, posted a comment here, but it disappeared.
Pompeo did not have any power to "compel" Trump not to honor his promise. Trump was the President. Pompeo was a subordinate. Pompeo may be bad just like William Barr and Ronna Romney and Christopher Wray and Rex Tillerson and Reince Priebus and an Mad Dog Mattis and John Bolton and Jeff Sessions and Nikki Haley and Omerosa and Jared Kushner and Ivanka - all Trump appointees. But Trump had the power to declassify and everything, which was his promise, and he failed to honor his promise.
So true, for sure.
We often argue but he was not a political dude, he was a competitive businessman from NY.
Nevertheless, it may have seemed like a good idea at the time. I supported him in letter and donations. But I have to say, whomever was charged with vetting his advisors fell terribly short. He had an opportunity to make things right but heeded the advice of some very questionable people who turned right around and stabbed him in the back. Bottom line after all is said and done: sadly, he probably missed his only opportunity to provide citizens information on their own gov. It matters a lot because we also know the left takes EVERY opportunity to get their way. Considering some of the freaks Brandon has placed in office sickens me. Now we learn he has ordered illegal aliens to be brought in from southern Mejico with American passes. The game is so damn obvious but too few in DC even discuss it.
Does your comment become more significant if repeated?
That, ma'am, is a principle of Saul Alinsky regularly used by the left. What is good for the goose is not good for the gander?
I am a conservative since first voting for Reagan in 1980. I like the Constitution and wonder why Trump never used the power he had to declassify, which is exclusive to the President. Are you an Alinsky acolyte?
I am a conservative and have been since day one when i became a naturalized citizen. I voted for RR. "Are you an Alinsky acolyte?". What a damned insult!
Why would you ask that?
I made reference to Saul Alinsky because the concept of "repetition of a lie" is one of his rules for radicals. Unless and until conservatives use the very same rules that leftists use against us, they will continue to dominate. Some conservatives understand this principle and advise for it - use their own rules against them.
I voted for DJT and donated regularly to his campaign both times and during his presidency. That the establishment and media and the politically elite want DJT out of play is in and of itself indication they fear his presidency disportionately for SOME reason. I want him back in office but this time with a better mechanism of vetting advisors - get Ivanka & Jared out of his inner political circle asap - so many of their selectees stabbed him in the back.
Also, while true that Pompeo did many good things and was strong in his position, his deliberate act to continue to hide the JFK issue cannot be forgiven - after all, and IF you are really a conservative, We the People must be made aware of what OUR government is up to.
Yes
1979 I was a punk-senior in a H/S Sociology class; tasked to debate this issue. My opponent was my cousin who was the class' handsome football star.... I had to prove the assasination was a cia conspiracy...my opponent had to prove it wasn't. He & the class laughed at me while he just sat there & used the Warren Commission...
He got an A (by class vote), I got a B...
The characterization of Mike Pompeo as being a "Cowardly Deep State RINO" is at stark variance with so many public positions that Pompeo has voiced and merits complete retraction*. Concerning the application of this description in connection to the release or non release of JFK assassination related documents, I have already responded. In brief CIA methods and persons who may now still be alive in their 80s or 90's or their family members (including and especially abroad) could be in danger. But I'd like to respond to the use of such a prominent public "headline level" personal attack against Mike Pompeo-an outstanding public servant, Christian and a man who graduated first in his class at West Point and who has shown an exemplary record of being a solid Christian patriot at nearly every turn of his public life. Indeed thanks in no small part to his robust criticism of Communist China, upon completion of his time as US Secretary of State, China banned Mike Pompeo and family members from entering China and : "...have also been restricted from doing business with China either individually or through their companies and institutions.". This also applied to several Trump Administration officials. One of the most striking "Non RINO" comments that Mike Pompeo uttered was his defiant reply made on Nov. 10th 2020 about if there would be a smooth transition to a Biden Administration in the following weeks after the 2020 election: "There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration, all right. We're ready. The world is watching what's taking place here. We're gonna count all the votes. When the process is complete, they'll be electors selected."
I now include, for your reflection, a few facts (based on news articles that are included on the biased against conservatives Mike Pompeo wikipedia page:
Pompeo advocated for moving the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and the withdrawal of the United States from the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran.and negotiated the Abraham Accords which established diplomatic normalcy between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.[5]
While other Trump Cabinet members resigned or took a low profile after the attack on the Capitol, in which Trump's role was debated, Pompeo remained a vocal defender of Trump, sending a Twitter message that promoted him as a potential Nobel Peace Prize nominee.[150]
He accused the World Health Organization of being under control of the People's Republic of China
Pompeo said the U.S. government [was] trying to determine if the COVID-19 virus emanated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.[125][126] On April 23, 2020, Pompeo claimed that China had denied U.S. scientists permission to enter the country, in an effort to ascertain the origin of the current pandemic.
Visiting Taipei in 2022, Pompeo said that the U.S. should recognize Republic of China (Taiwan) as an independent country.
On October 10, 2018, Pompeo said Israel "is everything we want the entire Middle East to look like going forward" and that the Israel–United States relations are "stronger than ever".[78]
In March 2019, when questioned regarding Israel's conflicts with Iran and following a visit to the Western Wall with Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Pompeo spoke to "the work that our administration's done to make sure that this democracy in the Middle East, that this Jewish state, remains ... I am confident that the Lord is at work here."[79]
In October 2019, the State Department web site promoted a speech by Pompeo "On Being a Christian Leader", which he delivered to the American Association of Christian Counselors in his official government role. Pompeo touts Christianity in his speech, describes how he applies his faith to his government work. The promotion of the speech by the State Department was met with criticism from those who believed it was incompatible with separation of church and state.[86][87][88] He also created the Commission on Unalienable Rights, and created a faith-based employee affinity group that includes contractors.[89]
In January 2020, the Trump administration approved a drone strike that assassinated Iranian General Qasem Soleimani. Pompeo was reportedly among the most hawkish advisors within the administration during the meeting in which Trump decided to assassinate Soleimani.
Speaking about climate change in 2013, Pompeo said: "There are scientists who think lots of different things about climate change. There's some who think we're warming, there's some who think we're cooling, there's some who think that the last 16 years have shown a pretty stable climate environment."[212] He has said, "Federal policy should be about the American family, not worshipping a radical environmental agenda."
In 2009 Pompeo signed the No Climate Tax pledge of Americans for Prosperity.
Pompeo has stated that life begins at conception and believes abortions should be allowed only when necessary to save the life of the mother, with no exceptions for rape.[222]
In 2011, he voted for the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, which would have banned federal health coverage that includes abortion.
He opposes same-sex marriage and sponsored bills to let states prevent same-sex couples from marrying.[224][225]
Pompeo was instrumental in the development of the anti-abortion Geneva Consensus Declaration.[226]
At the suggestion of Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, Pompeo planned to hire chaplains at the CIA.[57]
In 2014, Pompeo told a church group that Christians needed to "know that Jesus Christ as our savior is truly the only solution for our world".[240] In 2015 in a talk at a church, Pompeo said that "politics is a never-ending struggle ... until the Rapture."
Mike Pompeo-you really think this is the public record of a cowardly, deep state RINO?
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pompeo#cite_note-:13-64
I agree with almost all of this, and have far more confidence in Pompeo's essential character than DJT. And while Tucker Carlson is talented, charismatic and right a good deal of the time, he is also manipulative and not particularly trustworthy.
That isn't to say that he's incorrect that the CIA had a hand in JFK's assassination. But his anonymous source has no particular credibility, and the "bombshell" -- like so many Tucker has dropped -- dovetails perfectly with a Russian agenda to weaken the United States by exacerbating distrust and cultural conflict.
The Soviets were masters at long-game subversion of American society, and much of the absurd "wokism" that so thoroughly infects academia germinated from seeds first planted as long ago as the 1950s. The Soviet intelligence apparatus implemented a highly successful, multi-faceted campaign over decades to erode social stability in the United States. Are we supposed to believe that this effort miraculously disappeared with the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991? After successfully corrupting the American left, isn't it far more likely that in contemporary Russia it has modernized, matured, and now does its best to inflame and corrupt the American right, using all means at its disposal?
I recall Trump saying he got many phone calls, some of them from other countries, regarding declassification. I wonder what that meant.
Interesting point.
One might suspect leaders in other countries know more about the murder of JFK than most American citizens. With the information revealed by Carlson, many things make sense that were suspected without sufficient evidence. For me, the "magic bullet" was a huge clue that Oswald did not act alone. Common sense tells us that no bullet in that day could change course of travel. Also, very possibly related was the deaths of Monroe and deep investigative reporter Dorothy Kilgallen. Those deaths were especially frightening in the manner they were performed. Toxic poison place where? OMG. What monsters. All in all, now it becomes clearer why Trump's candidacy was fought against by the likes of the FBI/DOJ/CIA. Our whole gov is a sham. In a very real sense, JFK's speech resonated strongly with the last advice of President Dwight Eisenhower. They knew. Now, we know. Our gov truly is a nonrepresentative sham.
Researcher Dale Myers proved that rather than being a magic bullet, the higher position of JFK and the lower position of Gov. Connolly in the jump seat meant that the bullet fired from the Carcano (incidentally a very accurate weapon although its often maligned as the humanitarian probably due to its flat trajectory that tends to penetrate flesh and quickly exit doing lesser damage than other rifles that tend to give a yawing trajectory) could have easily hit both men. I blame an avowed marxist communist Lee Harvey Oswald who loved Fidel Castro.
“Case Closed” by Posner makes the same argument. I have read arguments online between people claiming to know that weapon on both sides of the “I could make that shot” debate. I have toured the building and plaza and listened to various theories. Personally, I have little knowledge of guns, so no opinion on that issue. However, I am completely convinced that we have never been told the entire truth, that we have very limited access to what really goes on with our intelligence apparatus, and that many items Trump ordered declassified were “slow walked” until he was no longer in office and never released to the public.
Sadly, our gov deliberately with-holds critical information from citizens. Those who argue one bullet and one dude are definitely entitled to their opinions and reasoned arguments. So am i. I do not believe that bullet traversed a near right angle to enter Gov Connerly. My opinion is that there is more than enough circumstantial and other evidence to indicate that the cia was involved for reasons i stated elsewhere here. Consider the behavior of the DOJ and FBI the last few years. They are now off their original mission. Both agencies have lost respect from citizens and of nations across the globe. They need to be rebirthed.