As American society continues to lose trust in government and our various institutions, it's telling that Mike Pompeo wants to be President while perpetuating the degradation of these institutions.
The FBI, CIA, the DOJ, and the DOD are all organized opponents of the legitimate government. None are under the control of politicians, they are all autonomous, they only maintain the appearance of being a part of the visual government.
John and Bobby were going to dismantle the CIA, that's what got them killed.. They knew that the CIA was out of control and were going to do something about it.
This is why I keep saying that our troubles will never be solved politically, the real power cares not about all that constitutional Republic stuff. They're in control, and they mean for it to stay that way.
Like it or not, we either go to war, or succumb to the deep state and fascism.
What does it all mean? I think basically that they were asleep at the switch. Both the CIA & FBI knew about Oswald. They knew he went to Mexico City to go to the Cuban and or Russian Embassies only weeks before the assassination. They were grossly negligent. While many are prone to shout THE CIA CARRIED OUT THE JFK ASSASSINATION!! I'm inclined to believe that they and the FBI were just not connecting the dots and doing a good job at protecting the country from a catastrophe. Think 9/11.
So was the culprit CIA or CYA? By the way look into the Soviets vast disinformation campaign that the late Romanian general and defector Ion Mihai Pacepa whom I interviewed who discussed their vast international disinformation campaign to induce the world to believe that the US or anyone but communists did the deed of murdering JFK. They had to insinuate that anyone but a Marxist Communist-Lee Harvey Oswald-was responsible so they got behind blaming US institutions and Texas oil men. From virtually the very beginning the KGB was trying to peddle the idea that Oswald was NOT guilty. I know this because I interviewed arguably Oswald's best friend Ernst Titovets, still alive in 2022. The Soviets informed him almost immediately that Oswald hadn't killed JFK. Oswald had lived in Russia for a few years and the PR disaster for the left was enormous. Today like on the day of the assassination the right was mentioned as possible culprits. I think we need to be a little more sophisticated in looking at the JFK assassination and the stakes-the US Government failed to recognize the threat and JFK died.
One person no one mentioned was arguably the first JFK Assassination conspiracist-Howard Leslie Brennan who saw Oswald in the 6th floor window a few minutes before the assassination AND as Oswald made the last shot that hit JFK's head. He immediately sought to give his description to law enforcement. Some 45 minutes later Oswald was seen shooting Officer JD Tippit AFTER the police issued an advisory probably with Brennan's general description.
Jack Ruby? He surely looks like a mafia hit man. However Ruby was very volatile, violent and craved attention. He was the guy who had to be in the middle of everything. He saw, on Sunday morning, Nov. 24th, 1963 that Lee Harvey Oswald was the center of attention and despite having his prized dachsund in his car awaiting his return he, in my opinion, acted on his explosively violent impulses in a moment of opportunity. He was in no great rush to be in the police garage where Oswald was about to be escorted through before TV cameras and took his time that Sunday morning and minutes before was chatting in the Western Union office nearby while sending cash to one of his strippers. Regarding the CIA psychiatrist who "treated" Jack Ruby I think they wanted to silence him and could have given him LSD. Why? Excellent question but remember that Nixon recognized Ruby as soon as the Oswald murder took place as an operative who had worked in domestic anti communist operations. Does this then mean that the CIA had him silence Oswald? Not necessarily. Ruby was not a reliable man neither for the mob nor the CIA either but a talker who'd blow any secrecy in a heartbeat-not the man for the job to kill Oswald. Ruby was a loose cannon for the CIA and would discuss all sorts of things going back years and the CIA knew it but was a small fry. Also be open to the idea that Oswald was a DIY wannabe presidential assassin eager to ingratiate himself with the Cuban government (where he wanted to transfer to) who saw both JFK and Gen. Edwin Walker (whom Oswald attempted to kill on April 10th, 1963) as enemies. Finally the shot was not a difficult one. Marines in the 1950's qualified on a rifle range with distances up to 500 yards. JFK was just 88 yards from the 6th floor window when he suffered the fatal head wound. Why they refuse to release all the records, at this point, could be because there are still CIA sources in their 80's or 90's or their descendants who are still alive and living abroad and potentially in danger of reprisals. There's also a possibility that full disclosure could irreparably compromise the prestige of the CIA & FBI. Is that cowardice or perhaps prudence? What would it do if America realized that the CIA and or FBI was asleep at the switch in 1963. What good can come of it at this point? It's like revealing embarrassing family scandals-ugly when they happened in 1963 and still ugly in 2022 with methods and people still alive now who could be exposed.
You write off ex CIA Director Mike Pompeo as not only a RINO but a coward? He was a standout in 2020 and 2021 as being publicly loyal to Trump and committed to helping "make a transition to a 2nd Trump Administration". I still think Pompeo is a good man who stood tall as others were running to the exits. It's easy to tear people down from a keyboard. Mike Pompeo deserves to be characterized as a patriot and a man with integrity. So now conservatives join the Soviets in peddling the notion that America and our government killed JFK. In the case of the Soviets they were desperately hoping that Oswald -a fist raising Marxist murderer-did not do it while many conservatives swallow the lie hook, line and sinker and never suspect that our enemies did it. Boy did they snooker us!
Pompeo did not have any power to "compel" Trump not to honor his promise. Trump was the President. Pompeo was a subordinate. Pompeo may be bad just like William Barr and Ronna Romney and Christopher Wray and Rex Tillerson and Reince Priebus and an Mad Dog Mattis and John Bolton and Jeff Sessions and Nikki Haley and Omerosa and Jared Kushner and Ivanka - all Trump appointees. But Trump had the power to declassify and everything, which was his promise, and he failed to honor his promise.
I have but one problem with the response of Carlson's source, who was asked by Carlson "if the CIA was involved," with the reply being, "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved." That problem is that the source stated "believe." "Believe" is not a "statement of fact" but an "opinion," a "statement of faith," held by a "true believer." But let those of us who live in the world of reality accept one truth. If, IF, if an individual could respond with the answer "I know," instead of "I believe," would that person do so knowing that by doing so they would actually be saying "Yes, I know it to be true, I can prove it is true, I have the proof under my concrete basement floor and you may now remove my physical presence from the planet because they are that dark force over the "elected arm of the government" that controls all things, and there I said it." I know no man would be so fool hardy unless they were as mad as that contract psychiatrist believed that Jack Ruby was. The desire to survive is the strongest force on this planet, stronger than procreate, and shapes all decisions, be you an intelligence agency or a custodian for that agency. Consequently, I cannot believe that the questions revolving around the death of J.F.K. will ever be provably, factually resolved. So, get used to it and believe what you like. However, if you also believe that this nation could possibly survive without a CIA, I will simply mockingly tell you to "Grow-Up."
Pompeo did not have any power to "compel" Trump not to honor his promise. Trump was the President. Pompeo was a subordinate. Pompeo may be bad just like William Barr and Ronna Romney and Christopher Wray and Rex Tillerson and Reince Priebus and an Mad Dog Mattis and John Bolton and Jeff Sessions and Nikki Haley and Omerosa and Jared Kushner and Ivanka - all Trump appointees. But Trump had the power to declassify and everything, which was his promise, and he failed to honor his promise.
1979 I was a punk-senior in a H/S Sociology class; tasked to debate this issue. My opponent was my cousin who was the class' handsome football star.... I had to prove the assasination was a cia conspiracy...my opponent had to prove it wasn't. He & the class laughed at me while he just sat there & used the Warren Commission...
The characterization of Mike Pompeo as being a "Cowardly Deep State RINO" is at stark variance with so many public positions that Pompeo has voiced and merits complete retraction*. Concerning the application of this description in connection to the release or non release of JFK assassination related documents, I have already responded. In brief CIA methods and persons who may now still be alive in their 80s or 90's or their family members (including and especially abroad) could be in danger. But I'd like to respond to the use of such a prominent public "headline level" personal attack against Mike Pompeo-an outstanding public servant, Christian and a man who graduated first in his class at West Point and who has shown an exemplary record of being a solid Christian patriot at nearly every turn of his public life. Indeed thanks in no small part to his robust criticism of Communist China, upon completion of his time as US Secretary of State, China banned Mike Pompeo and family members from entering China and : "...have also been restricted from doing business with China either individually or through their companies and institutions.". This also applied to several Trump Administration officials. One of the most striking "Non RINO" comments that Mike Pompeo uttered was his defiant reply made on Nov. 10th 2020 about if there would be a smooth transition to a Biden Administration in the following weeks after the 2020 election: "There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration, all right. We're ready. The world is watching what's taking place here. We're gonna count all the votes. When the process is complete, they'll be electors selected."
I now include, for your reflection, a few facts (based on news articles that are included on the biased against conservatives Mike Pompeo wikipedia page:
Pompeo advocated for moving the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and the withdrawal of the United States from the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran.and negotiated the Abraham Accords which established diplomatic normalcy between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.[5]
While other Trump Cabinet members resigned or took a low profile after the attack on the Capitol, in which Trump's role was debated, Pompeo remained a vocal defender of Trump, sending a Twitter message that promoted him as a potential Nobel Peace Prize nominee.[150]
He accused the World Health Organization of being under control of the People's Republic of China
Pompeo said the U.S. government [was] trying to determine if the COVID-19 virus emanated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.[125][126] On April 23, 2020, Pompeo claimed that China had denied U.S. scientists permission to enter the country, in an effort to ascertain the origin of the current pandemic.
Visiting Taipei in 2022, Pompeo said that the U.S. should recognize Republic of China (Taiwan) as an independent country.
On October 10, 2018, Pompeo said Israel "is everything we want the entire Middle East to look like going forward" and that the Israel–United States relations are "stronger than ever".[78]
In March 2019, when questioned regarding Israel's conflicts with Iran and following a visit to the Western Wall with Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Pompeo spoke to "the work that our administration's done to make sure that this democracy in the Middle East, that this Jewish state, remains ... I am confident that the Lord is at work here."[79]
In October 2019, the State Department web site promoted a speech by Pompeo "On Being a Christian Leader", which he delivered to the American Association of Christian Counselors in his official government role. Pompeo touts Christianity in his speech, describes how he applies his faith to his government work. The promotion of the speech by the State Department was met with criticism from those who believed it was incompatible with separation of church and state.[86][87][88] He also created the Commission on Unalienable Rights, and created a faith-based employee affinity group that includes contractors.[89]
In January 2020, the Trump administration approved a drone strike that assassinated Iranian General Qasem Soleimani. Pompeo was reportedly among the most hawkish advisors within the administration during the meeting in which Trump decided to assassinate Soleimani.
Speaking about climate change in 2013, Pompeo said: "There are scientists who think lots of different things about climate change. There's some who think we're warming, there's some who think we're cooling, there's some who think that the last 16 years have shown a pretty stable climate environment."[212] He has said, "Federal policy should be about the American family, not worshipping a radical environmental agenda."
In 2009 Pompeo signed the No Climate Tax pledge of Americans for Prosperity.
Pompeo has stated that life begins at conception and believes abortions should be allowed only when necessary to save the life of the mother, with no exceptions for rape.[222]
In 2011, he voted for the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, which would have banned federal health coverage that includes abortion.
He opposes same-sex marriage and sponsored bills to let states prevent same-sex couples from marrying.[224][225]
Pompeo was instrumental in the development of the anti-abortion Geneva Consensus Declaration.[226]
At the suggestion of Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, Pompeo planned to hire chaplains at the CIA.[57]
In 2014, Pompeo told a church group that Christians needed to "know that Jesus Christ as our savior is truly the only solution for our world".[240] In 2015 in a talk at a church, Pompeo said that "politics is a never-ending struggle ... until the Rapture."
Mike Pompeo-you really think this is the public record of a cowardly, deep state RINO?
The FBI, CIA, the DOJ, and the DOD are all organized opponents of the legitimate government. None are under the control of politicians, they are all autonomous, they only maintain the appearance of being a part of the visual government.
John and Bobby were going to dismantle the CIA, that's what got them killed.. They knew that the CIA was out of control and were going to do something about it.
This is why I keep saying that our troubles will never be solved politically, the real power cares not about all that constitutional Republic stuff. They're in control, and they mean for it to stay that way.
Like it or not, we either go to war, or succumb to the deep state and fascism.
What does it all mean? I think basically that they were asleep at the switch. Both the CIA & FBI knew about Oswald. They knew he went to Mexico City to go to the Cuban and or Russian Embassies only weeks before the assassination. They were grossly negligent. While many are prone to shout THE CIA CARRIED OUT THE JFK ASSASSINATION!! I'm inclined to believe that they and the FBI were just not connecting the dots and doing a good job at protecting the country from a catastrophe. Think 9/11.
So was the culprit CIA or CYA? By the way look into the Soviets vast disinformation campaign that the late Romanian general and defector Ion Mihai Pacepa whom I interviewed who discussed their vast international disinformation campaign to induce the world to believe that the US or anyone but communists did the deed of murdering JFK. They had to insinuate that anyone but a Marxist Communist-Lee Harvey Oswald-was responsible so they got behind blaming US institutions and Texas oil men. From virtually the very beginning the KGB was trying to peddle the idea that Oswald was NOT guilty. I know this because I interviewed arguably Oswald's best friend Ernst Titovets, still alive in 2022. The Soviets informed him almost immediately that Oswald hadn't killed JFK. Oswald had lived in Russia for a few years and the PR disaster for the left was enormous. Today like on the day of the assassination the right was mentioned as possible culprits. I think we need to be a little more sophisticated in looking at the JFK assassination and the stakes-the US Government failed to recognize the threat and JFK died.
One person no one mentioned was arguably the first JFK Assassination conspiracist-Howard Leslie Brennan who saw Oswald in the 6th floor window a few minutes before the assassination AND as Oswald made the last shot that hit JFK's head. He immediately sought to give his description to law enforcement. Some 45 minutes later Oswald was seen shooting Officer JD Tippit AFTER the police issued an advisory probably with Brennan's general description.
Jack Ruby? He surely looks like a mafia hit man. However Ruby was very volatile, violent and craved attention. He was the guy who had to be in the middle of everything. He saw, on Sunday morning, Nov. 24th, 1963 that Lee Harvey Oswald was the center of attention and despite having his prized dachsund in his car awaiting his return he, in my opinion, acted on his explosively violent impulses in a moment of opportunity. He was in no great rush to be in the police garage where Oswald was about to be escorted through before TV cameras and took his time that Sunday morning and minutes before was chatting in the Western Union office nearby while sending cash to one of his strippers. Regarding the CIA psychiatrist who "treated" Jack Ruby I think they wanted to silence him and could have given him LSD. Why? Excellent question but remember that Nixon recognized Ruby as soon as the Oswald murder took place as an operative who had worked in domestic anti communist operations. Does this then mean that the CIA had him silence Oswald? Not necessarily. Ruby was not a reliable man neither for the mob nor the CIA either but a talker who'd blow any secrecy in a heartbeat-not the man for the job to kill Oswald. Ruby was a loose cannon for the CIA and would discuss all sorts of things going back years and the CIA knew it but was a small fry. Also be open to the idea that Oswald was a DIY wannabe presidential assassin eager to ingratiate himself with the Cuban government (where he wanted to transfer to) who saw both JFK and Gen. Edwin Walker (whom Oswald attempted to kill on April 10th, 1963) as enemies. Finally the shot was not a difficult one. Marines in the 1950's qualified on a rifle range with distances up to 500 yards. JFK was just 88 yards from the 6th floor window when he suffered the fatal head wound. Why they refuse to release all the records, at this point, could be because there are still CIA sources in their 80's or 90's or their descendants who are still alive and living abroad and potentially in danger of reprisals. There's also a possibility that full disclosure could irreparably compromise the prestige of the CIA & FBI. Is that cowardice or perhaps prudence? What would it do if America realized that the CIA and or FBI was asleep at the switch in 1963. What good can come of it at this point? It's like revealing embarrassing family scandals-ugly when they happened in 1963 and still ugly in 2022 with methods and people still alive now who could be exposed.
You write off ex CIA Director Mike Pompeo as not only a RINO but a coward? He was a standout in 2020 and 2021 as being publicly loyal to Trump and committed to helping "make a transition to a 2nd Trump Administration". I still think Pompeo is a good man who stood tall as others were running to the exits. It's easy to tear people down from a keyboard. Mike Pompeo deserves to be characterized as a patriot and a man with integrity. So now conservatives join the Soviets in peddling the notion that America and our government killed JFK. In the case of the Soviets they were desperately hoping that Oswald -a fist raising Marxist murderer-did not do it while many conservatives swallow the lie hook, line and sinker and never suspect that our enemies did it. Boy did they snooker us!
Pompeo did not have any power to "compel" Trump not to honor his promise. Trump was the President. Pompeo was a subordinate. Pompeo may be bad just like William Barr and Ronna Romney and Christopher Wray and Rex Tillerson and Reince Priebus and an Mad Dog Mattis and John Bolton and Jeff Sessions and Nikki Haley and Omerosa and Jared Kushner and Ivanka - all Trump appointees. But Trump had the power to declassify and everything, which was his promise, and he failed to honor his promise.
I have but one problem with the response of Carlson's source, who was asked by Carlson "if the CIA was involved," with the reply being, "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved." That problem is that the source stated "believe." "Believe" is not a "statement of fact" but an "opinion," a "statement of faith," held by a "true believer." But let those of us who live in the world of reality accept one truth. If, IF, if an individual could respond with the answer "I know," instead of "I believe," would that person do so knowing that by doing so they would actually be saying "Yes, I know it to be true, I can prove it is true, I have the proof under my concrete basement floor and you may now remove my physical presence from the planet because they are that dark force over the "elected arm of the government" that controls all things, and there I said it." I know no man would be so fool hardy unless they were as mad as that contract psychiatrist believed that Jack Ruby was. The desire to survive is the strongest force on this planet, stronger than procreate, and shapes all decisions, be you an intelligence agency or a custodian for that agency. Consequently, I cannot believe that the questions revolving around the death of J.F.K. will ever be provably, factually resolved. So, get used to it and believe what you like. However, if you also believe that this nation could possibly survive without a CIA, I will simply mockingly tell you to "Grow-Up."
Well, posted a comment here, but it disappeared.
Pompeo did not have any power to "compel" Trump not to honor his promise. Trump was the President. Pompeo was a subordinate. Pompeo may be bad just like William Barr and Ronna Romney and Christopher Wray and Rex Tillerson and Reince Priebus and an Mad Dog Mattis and John Bolton and Jeff Sessions and Nikki Haley and Omerosa and Jared Kushner and Ivanka - all Trump appointees. But Trump had the power to declassify and everything, which was his promise, and he failed to honor his promise.
1979 I was a punk-senior in a H/S Sociology class; tasked to debate this issue. My opponent was my cousin who was the class' handsome football star.... I had to prove the assasination was a cia conspiracy...my opponent had to prove it wasn't. He & the class laughed at me while he just sat there & used the Warren Commission...
He got an A (by class vote), I got a B...
The characterization of Mike Pompeo as being a "Cowardly Deep State RINO" is at stark variance with so many public positions that Pompeo has voiced and merits complete retraction*. Concerning the application of this description in connection to the release or non release of JFK assassination related documents, I have already responded. In brief CIA methods and persons who may now still be alive in their 80s or 90's or their family members (including and especially abroad) could be in danger. But I'd like to respond to the use of such a prominent public "headline level" personal attack against Mike Pompeo-an outstanding public servant, Christian and a man who graduated first in his class at West Point and who has shown an exemplary record of being a solid Christian patriot at nearly every turn of his public life. Indeed thanks in no small part to his robust criticism of Communist China, upon completion of his time as US Secretary of State, China banned Mike Pompeo and family members from entering China and : "...have also been restricted from doing business with China either individually or through their companies and institutions.". This also applied to several Trump Administration officials. One of the most striking "Non RINO" comments that Mike Pompeo uttered was his defiant reply made on Nov. 10th 2020 about if there would be a smooth transition to a Biden Administration in the following weeks after the 2020 election: "There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration, all right. We're ready. The world is watching what's taking place here. We're gonna count all the votes. When the process is complete, they'll be electors selected."
I now include, for your reflection, a few facts (based on news articles that are included on the biased against conservatives Mike Pompeo wikipedia page:
Pompeo advocated for moving the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and the withdrawal of the United States from the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran.and negotiated the Abraham Accords which established diplomatic normalcy between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.[5]
While other Trump Cabinet members resigned or took a low profile after the attack on the Capitol, in which Trump's role was debated, Pompeo remained a vocal defender of Trump, sending a Twitter message that promoted him as a potential Nobel Peace Prize nominee.[150]
He accused the World Health Organization of being under control of the People's Republic of China
Pompeo said the U.S. government [was] trying to determine if the COVID-19 virus emanated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.[125][126] On April 23, 2020, Pompeo claimed that China had denied U.S. scientists permission to enter the country, in an effort to ascertain the origin of the current pandemic.
Visiting Taipei in 2022, Pompeo said that the U.S. should recognize Republic of China (Taiwan) as an independent country.
On October 10, 2018, Pompeo said Israel "is everything we want the entire Middle East to look like going forward" and that the Israel–United States relations are "stronger than ever".[78]
In March 2019, when questioned regarding Israel's conflicts with Iran and following a visit to the Western Wall with Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Pompeo spoke to "the work that our administration's done to make sure that this democracy in the Middle East, that this Jewish state, remains ... I am confident that the Lord is at work here."[79]
In October 2019, the State Department web site promoted a speech by Pompeo "On Being a Christian Leader", which he delivered to the American Association of Christian Counselors in his official government role. Pompeo touts Christianity in his speech, describes how he applies his faith to his government work. The promotion of the speech by the State Department was met with criticism from those who believed it was incompatible with separation of church and state.[86][87][88] He also created the Commission on Unalienable Rights, and created a faith-based employee affinity group that includes contractors.[89]
In January 2020, the Trump administration approved a drone strike that assassinated Iranian General Qasem Soleimani. Pompeo was reportedly among the most hawkish advisors within the administration during the meeting in which Trump decided to assassinate Soleimani.
Speaking about climate change in 2013, Pompeo said: "There are scientists who think lots of different things about climate change. There's some who think we're warming, there's some who think we're cooling, there's some who think that the last 16 years have shown a pretty stable climate environment."[212] He has said, "Federal policy should be about the American family, not worshipping a radical environmental agenda."
In 2009 Pompeo signed the No Climate Tax pledge of Americans for Prosperity.
Pompeo has stated that life begins at conception and believes abortions should be allowed only when necessary to save the life of the mother, with no exceptions for rape.[222]
In 2011, he voted for the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, which would have banned federal health coverage that includes abortion.
He opposes same-sex marriage and sponsored bills to let states prevent same-sex couples from marrying.[224][225]
Pompeo was instrumental in the development of the anti-abortion Geneva Consensus Declaration.[226]
At the suggestion of Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, Pompeo planned to hire chaplains at the CIA.[57]
In 2014, Pompeo told a church group that Christians needed to "know that Jesus Christ as our savior is truly the only solution for our world".[240] In 2015 in a talk at a church, Pompeo said that "politics is a never-ending struggle ... until the Rapture."
Mike Pompeo-you really think this is the public record of a cowardly, deep state RINO?
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pompeo#cite_note-:13-64
I recall Trump saying he got many phone calls, some of them from other countries, regarding declassification. I wonder what that meant.